@Mia McHaffey you were on this jury

@Mia McHaffey I think he did it but more people involved

@Mia McHaffey What did you do guess? Did you ever wonder if the girls were actually dropped off in the first place?

@Mia McHaffey one question! Do you believe Lindsay Clancy is guilty?

@Mia McHaffey What do you think about all the information that the jury wasn't allowed to see?

Prove it's not fake.

@Mia McHaffey since the trial, after learning that LE lied under oath, after seeing Blairs sketch which she says is 10/10 who she saw, etc do you second guess your verdict? Im genuinely asking. Because I truly belueve he is the wrong guy

@Mia McHaffey So was a whole bunch of other people! He left by 1:30. His agreement to time is that he was there at part of the 1-3pm they asked about. So he said yes. But he was not there the entire time. He left by 1:30. He did not park at CPS. He parked on the other side of the highway. Not one person saw a short chubby man out there that was there. Daniel, Shelby, Cheyenne, Cheryl, both McCains were all out there at the time the girls were supposedly on the bridge. Daniel Pearson was standing on the bridge when the girls would have crossed. He did not see them. How is he and the girls on the bridge at the same time? This info is from phone records and witness interviews yet it was blocked.

@Mia McHaffey He was watching the stock ticker while on the trails. The state doesn't want you to see any geofence that will prove he had left by 1:30. I'm sorry, but these people really messed with you guys and everyone else.

@Mia McHaffey in fairness the motion to correct error is on the record and does have video for you to see for yourself the time the van came home. The FBI agent that Judge Gull didnt allow to testify would have put Brad Webers alibi (because he was a suspect who was cleared due to the fact he wasnt home) on the actual trial record had he been able to testify.

@Mia McHaffey - God help us all. JFC

@Mia McHaffey - 1. He never said he saw the girls. 🤦 He saw a group of THREE girls. Those 3 girls exist and were never interviewed . (Granted you weren't given that info so I will give you that.) And he never said he was wearing the same clothing. He said blue jeans, likely a black jacket, etc. Hell his blue Carhartt wasn't even purchased until AFTER the crime. 🤦

@Mia McHaffey - You need to watch Andrea Burkhart on YouTube and get the facts straight, as well as see how much information you didn't get.

@Tammy Allen McCray It was highlighted that LE didn't lie under oath, Betsy blares sketch is subjective she is an older woman so would have seen a younger man and the girls are younger so would have seen an older man. that sketch looks nothing like Brad Holder so the defense shot themselves in the foot with that whole argument. and yes they are arguing he was that sketch he waves it around like a child shouting "Brad Holder, Brad Holder"

@Tammy Allen McCray stop spreading misinformation hand picking little things. Richard Allen didn't have his phone on him that day, the phone he gave to police was an older model the phone he had he destroyed before going to police he ran it over with a lawn mower READ KATHYS STATEMENT

@TCC just don't kill little girls

@Tammy Allen McCray You know Libby did take a picture of her killer. Go in Google images and search Delphi Bridge Guy. You can see for yourself what her killer looks like.

@Tammy Allen McCray If you are honest that their is geofencing data proving he wasn't there, his defense would be screaming it, his family and friends also, and so would the girls friends and family as they would clearly want the correct person to pay for their crimes. So please explain how you know he was home?

@Francis Gibson depositions are done under oath. In court testimony is under oath. If you read transcripts from different hearings, depos, and trial....lies are found. I dont think the sketch is Holder. But LE used the sketches to look for suspects, so it shouldve been allowed in at trial.

@Shawn Palmi I know from the geofencing that at the time the state says the girls were at the trail & were killed, Richard Allens phone was home.

@Tammy Allen McCray sketches are subjective BB is older, the 3 girls are younger. the point you make about there being 4 girls hasn't been contested by the defense or appellate so! you might want to educate yourself on minors and witnesses. half of what you say is waffle Baldwin spouted and misinterpreting what you have. the sketches like 3rd party have to be an exact depiction. correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not) BB was cross examined and asked about the sketch by the defense and said "it's a rough image of what I saw" 👉 not her exact words but you get the picture. That was the defenses chance to get the sketch in they failed. BH was at work, had that as his alibi aswell as his brother in law drove with him, Patrick Westfall was at him and around his home via his mobile data, Elvis fields wasn't even close enough to Delphi for them to legally check. That leave the Klines Keegan was downloading CSAM in the house tony was around the neighborhood all day. it's been 4 years coming into 5 and even though you people get debunked you run around shouting the same crap and it's tiresome now. this will go to the supreme Court then you'll need to find a new child killer to defend

@Francis Gibson oh so mobile data is accurate when we're talking about Westfall? The witnesses were a group of 4 girls. You know this. And how do we know where Elvis was? You don't find it even a little bit strange that he asked LE if they find his spit on 1 of the girls but he can explain it would he be in trouble?

@Mia McHaffey What other claims ? Confessions ?

@Tammy Allen McCray 1 was under the age to be a witness and saying you saw 3 isn't a big discrepancy. Elvis fields was with his carers visiting a friend at hospital that's a fact. I haven't said anything about phone data being inaccurate but I will say out in the woods it is Steve a forensic expert went out and did experiments on the bridge and the crime scene and he pinged all over town. 😑 As Murphy originally stated before Ferency died, "sister was a drunk with pill bottles everywhere, her story changed Everytime and she couldn't produce anything she promised." about Elvis, "he seemed simple and asked a lot of hypothetical questions" once Ferency was killed him and click thought they could make a name for themselves click eventually fled the state because his dodgy police work caught up with him.

@Mia McHaffey wait....was the whole "looking at the stock ticker" on his phone not true?

@Mia McHaffey saying anything in a motion that is Not Factual is a violation just so you know. Lawyers can get themselves in big trouble for that. Ask your lawyer friends .

@Tammy Allen McCray 2:47 and 2:51. I know you know this and I think your fingers hit the wrong buttons; as mine often do.

@Francis Gibson who mows their yard in February in Indiana? He was only missing one phone, one phone destroyed by a lawnmower. Prove he had a burner?

@Francis Gibson Check out NM bragging about using 3 girls from the 4 girl group on Hidden True Crime.... This is not a secret. If they can lie about this, they can (and did) lie about anything.

@Francis Gibson Who needs an alibi when there is no true TOD? How did Holder check into his gym at 1:41 pm on the 13th if he was on the clock at work until 2:45pm?

@Francis Gibson Elvis Fields alibi was never confirmed. His phone sat from 10am to 7pm on the 13th without being touched. He claims he was with Rod and Ned at a hospital in Muncie visiting a friend. It has been confirmed that friend was released before the 13th. Elvis also said in his depo that he his a knife in his sisters camper for about 6 years and only took it out when she tore it down. Holder owned a .40 S&W that was never tested. All of this is in their depositions.

@Shawn Palmi Jerry Holemans deposition; read it. Actually, read all of them. They are quite eye opening.

@Francis Gibson Brad Holder, the guy that was creating his own brethren at the time. They didn't limit themselves to Brad.

@Theresa Steffens I actually feel bad for Mia and all of the jurors. They had to base their verdict on what they were told/shown. Personally, I see a ton of reasonable doubt even with what was heard at trial but I understand their decision. I would be absolutely furious if I had been a juror who took a man's life away then came out to learn I was lied to about everything. OR I would defend my decision because I couldn't handle facing the truth.

@Mia McHaffey If you were to see the geofence; you would see when his phone appears in the area and no longer appears in the area. It's not as simple as "he left his phone at home". He went there, we know that. What is being disputed is what time he arrived and what time he left. The geofence clears that up. The defense did fight to have that admitted but the state fought back and won based on "privacy of others and the reliability of it". How can the state fight it based on reliability when they literally used it to locate and identify people that were in and around the area? Allen's lead sheet was marked cleared for a reason. I thank you for doing your duty. I am sorry that you were forced to do so without hearing all of the facts.

@Tammy Allen McCray Do you have the screenshot of them saying that? I believe I still have it.

@April Vasquez I know. I forgot to edit

@Tammy Allen McCray I assumed. I know that you know this case very well. 🤯

@April Vasquez in the word of Leeman "brad holder Brad holder Brad Holder"

@Tammy Allen McCray a eyewittness can never be a 10 out of 10 . and to proove it , in court BB said the poofy hair she thought might of been some king of hat.

@April Vasquez I read it and Holeman says he should up in the geofencing later that night. Wish they would have presented that at the trial.

@Shawn Palmi He can say what he wants but the fact is; the geofence was over a twenty four hour period and Allen's phone goes in and out of the geofence. It will become public when it needs to.

@Hannah Taylor I'm just gonna send this one back and ask that you do more research. Because the majority of your claims in this comment are false.

@Mia McHaffey You are wrong. This man was tortured and drugged into confessing. He also confessed to cheating on a cigarette, starting ww3, killing his entire family including grandchildren he doesn't even have. He was eating and wearing his own poop. He was drinking out of a toilet. He was poking his own privates with a spork. His face and eyes were black where he was running head on into a wall. It's truly disgusting that the state and Gull got away with this. No one is safe as long as this is allowed to go on in a so called justice system. If you jurors really care about justice in this country you should want to fight for a fair investigation and a fair trial.

@Mia McHaffey I have no reason to lie to you... what you just said is factually wrong!! I take it you did not listen to the hearing on monday & how it seemed pretty apparent that even the judges were repulsed! and if you listen close you can hear the rally for Rick outside the courtroom screaming at the judges scorn. I can tell you a ton of things that you were NOT allowed to see, if you were truly a juror.. 💔 .. AND I do not blame the jury! I truly don't!!.. all you knew is what you were dealt, although i think some of the jurors should have been able to see through some of the BS & consider that there has to be more than this... but the judge prohibited the defense from presenting their defense, that would've helped defend Allen... (NO phone geofencing was allowed, NO 3rd party suspects that not only had the defense stumbled upon but the defense found out that an FBI task force had been investigating them for the crime for 3 years.. NO mention of any names of any person that police had spoken to previously, including the property owner.. NO mention of all the evidence that the state claimed they "lost" 😒.. or screwed up, no negative mention of the state whatsoever!.. NONE of the sketches that the state had used over the previous 6 years were allowed, per request by the prosecutor.. & so much more.. basically most of the states own work was hid from the jury!.. including the investigation into the odinists, which entailed the three-year investigation by an FBI task force team.

@Caitlin Marie Daugherty please see above comment

@Mike Sims Exactly!!!

One of Richard Allen's "peers" what a fruitcake! And SHE was a juror? wow

@Brandy Ellis - I have lost all faith in humanity. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@Kevin Lucas hi áine & kevin 🙂

@Mia McHaffey Thank you for both your jury service and coming forward. 👊🙏💜💙

@Mia McHaffey Hi Mia I've sent you a private message I hope you don't mind

@Francis Gibson I'm sorry my tag of you and Tom Webster didn't go through.

@Kevin Lucas you're ok buddy I hope you are well

@Mia McHaffey 😔😔💜💙

@Mia McHaffey 😔😔💜💙

@Mia McHaffey There is a memorial park built, maintained, and operated in their honor and memory. The scenic country campus is truly beautiful, even heavenly. Here is the now-defunct temporary beaming smiles double portrait billboard as seen shortly after the 2025 edition of Abby's Angels. I will be forever grateful to have had the opportunity to see with my own eyes, pay my respects, and photograph in person this angelic poster. 🎁🎁😔💜💙

@Mia McHaffey The scholarship is seemingly now defunct, but its website hosts a precious set of portraiture. Thank you and your fellow jurors for getting this verdict right. 😔💜💙 https://impact.ivytech.edu/project/9663

@Francis Gibson I'm alright all things considered.

@Mia McHaffey A truly precious, priceless treasure for posterity! 😔💜💙 https://youtu.be/VwaV33U8UIs?si=pzoa3nocx_16fn1p

@Mia McHaffey The links are valid, they just seem to not hyperlink on the browser I'm using at the time of this writing. Here is a precious timestamp reference. 😔💜💙

@Mia McHaffey The timestamp references was humbly and respectfully shown only because the link wasn't obvious, not to be potentially problematic for anyone. 🙏💜💙

@Mia McHaffey Here is another dignified, respectful time stamp reference. Someday, many decades from now, you will hopefully get greeted by her like this precious image in the hereafter. 😔💜💙

@Anabella Maysen what other men?

@Shelley Bray there was lots of people there that day. Anna Williams said over 50! Here are a few I can remember off the top of my head - Daniel Pearson, Ron Logan, Dan/Dave McCain, Evan Fritz, a man with a little dog 🐶. Abby and Libby also asked boys to go, one being Logan Holder (Brad Holders dad)

@Anabella Maysen I think this is the juror who spent all weekend looking for "unreasonable doubt". Good luck getting an answer out of her, she really just posted that she didn't believe the confessions or the ballistic, THAT'S REASONABLE DOUBT.

@Classic Over Thinker ron logan was not there, neither was logan holder, daniel pearson after the fact , there was the guy with the dog but he didnt go to the brige nor was he dressed like BG. the only one over dressed like BG with the same outfit was RA.

@Shelley Bray Daniel Pearson, David McCain and Dave Riley were at the trails during this time period. Do you know what they were wearing ?

@Jessica Brehon david mccain was wearing a flannel shirt, dave riley and daniel pearson tshirt and jacket

@Shelley Bray what kind of pants were they wearing? What color jackets?

@Jessica Brehon they wasn't dressed like BG . they didnt have a mask over their face for one. and there was no guys on the trial or bridge during the abduction time of the girls. BUT RA was

@Shelley Bray you don't want to say they were wearing jeans? And perhaps blue or black jackets? David McCain testified he was at high bridge at the time of the kidnapping. He saw Daniel Pearson and Daniel Pearson saw him.

@Mandy Salinas no, it isn't necessarily reasonable doubt. She would be the only one that knows why she voted guilty. Don't read into her statement anything that you don't know for certain.

@Classic Over Thinker you mean Brad Holders son. And we don't know if they actually asked any boys to meet them there. There is zero proof of that statement.

@Jim Cope Plus, Brad Holder's son was a good friend for and to Abby, and vice versa. Holders, both father and son, were not involved at all.

@Jim Cope whoops yes Brad Holders son 🤣. you might want to read the transcripts, LE actually checked Logan's messages! Logan also messaged his dad - 'she's missing' ....?

@Marissa Edens-Rosa uh, because he had five years to scrub it and replace interior fabrics! Duh!

@Jim sounds 100% plausible, hahaha.

@Mia McHaffey what convinced you bridge guy killed the girls? For all I know he could have just been warning them not to fall off the hill? No hate just wondering

@Mia McHaffey did you drastically change your appearance during trial? I was there every single day and don't seem to remember you. Where in the box did you sit? Also...if you really were a juror, there is proof on your profile that you broke the sequester order. The rules were pretty clear. Did one of the escorts allow it? If so, which one?

@Christine Salzer that's funny, I don't seem to remember you either. Please show me the proof on my profile I "broke the sequester order". I didn't have my phone, watch tv, or see my family for 3.5 weeks. But yeah, I'm just a random person claiming to have been on the jury. If you've looked back at my profile two years, you should've seen what I looked like then.

@Mia McHaffey I sat second row, next to Bob Motta, Erica Morse, and Kathy Allen. You posted on Facebook in the middle of trial. 🤔

@Christine Salzer screenshot or it didn't happen 🤔 but yeah, I must've been too close to the front to notice you.

@Christine Salzer glad you were able to get a seat though!

@Mia McHaffey I wasn't a spectator. I was there to do my job.

@Christine Salzer not too observant, I fear.

@Ridge Nappier remember there's more to the video than what we saw.

@Mia McHaffey she's one of the fake PIs the other one is on the run, her husband was just arrested as well for molesting a child. they aren't PIs they just run with any narrative

@Christine Salzer @Mia McHaffey was sequestered and didn't have a device. Why would you put forth this lie? It's interesting that you don't recognize her, yet you were assisting Baldwin & Rozzi with Erica Morse. You literally sat at the front in a guaranteed seat as I saw myself daily.

@Mia McHaffey It was very obvious from Day 1 of trial how seriously the jury took their responsibilities. The questions put forth throughout trial, the stoic faces with very little obvious expression (except for those who cried during devastating testimony and viewing horrific exhibits) showed me how hard you all worked to fulfill your duties. The impacts of this case and this trial can never fully be explained to those who were not fortunate enough to bear witness. Justice was served. Thank-you for your public service. No matter what attacks may come at you now that you've outed yourself, just remember that there are many, many "guilters" who trust the conclusion that the jury reached when weighing the evidence against Richard Allen. He selfishly stole the lives of Libby & Abby, and has left indelible scars on so many. #JusticeforLibbyandAbby 💜💜

@Christine Salzer Christine where did you go? I'm still waiting on some proof of these defamatory claims 🤨🤨

@Mia McHaffey Look who's talking!!! And you're not running the show! Im starting to believe your on some sort of mind altering medication, did they check all jurors to see if there were any mental diagnoses ? (They sure as hell should've !!!)

@Tony Hunt when did I ever say I'm running the show?? Also, it's so ironic how idiotic you sound and you don't even know it lol you'd think as someone who believes RA is innocent you would want people on the jury whom are are able to sympathize with mental health issues.

@Mia McHaffey yes, ty, and just maybe this division is by design. What better way to distract public attention from real criminals activities. And, speaking to the real criminals, you know who you are. Playing out as actors in a movie.

@Mia McHaffey Thank you for having the nerve to speak, you're the only one who has, since your interview on Murder Sheet.

@Mia McHaffey you didn't pay attention to those things that you said why on Earth did you find him guilty

@Ashley Marie The video was released a few months after the trial? The Judge is still playing dirty and refusing to release other PUBLIC exhibits! If they are so convinced Ricks the right guy, I wonder why they are still hiding things??

@Mia McHaffey I really want to understand how/why the jury disregarded the DNA evidence? I don't mean to be disrespectful at all, I just honestly don't understand? There is male DNA on the girls genitals, breasts and the 1 pair of underwear that is not Ricks? Plus seminal fluid inside both girls 😢. Did the jury believe the girls were sexually active before hand (Which is fine if that was the thought process and I am NOT 'slut shaming' at all!)? Thats the only explanation I can think of? As the mother of a daughter this truly horrifies me and I want whoever had there filthy paws all over Abby and Libby locked up 😑 . I would really like to reconcile this in my brain?? TY

@Classic Over Thinker these claims just aren't factually true.

@Christine Salzer no jury was allowed their cell phones you expect us to believe that. LOL

@Christine Salzer so she is in her hotel room and?

@Angie Hopkins you're clueless huh??

@Ashley Marie no you saw the entire 45ish seconds of the entire video

@Christine Salzer wrong year

@Angie Hopkins you got that right. maybe it will shut her up now about it.

@Shelley Bray at no point was I rude, so I'm not sure I understand your attitude. You're correct, I made a human error. For me, trial seems like yesterday, so I had the wrong year. My bad.

@Christine Salzer i think its Mia u need to apologize to. accusing someone of something they didnt do , i found that rude. you just had to prove it and you didnt it backfired.

@Shelley Bray I made a human error. I acknowledged that. My apologies to Mia. Would you like a kidney, or are you satisfied?

@Shiloh August no we didn't. It's a simple Google. Don't be stupid. Come on now.

@Christine Salzer thank you Kristine for such a genuine apology. It would be a little more believable if you weren't also posting screenshots with my name and photo on other groups accusing me of the same 😮

@Mia McHaffey I only posted it once, and it was here. I would suggest a double check. 🦅

@Ashley Marie just gonna lie huh

@Shiloh August what are you talking about? Did you just hit a crack pipe?

@Angie Hopkins Weighing the evidence ? It's hard to weigh hot air !

@Ashley Marie nah but I damn sure tagged the wrong person

@Mia McHaffey which part, I've read the transcripts so many times? There was lots of unidentified male DNA on the girls 😢. From the r@pe kits, BOTH girls swabs were presumptive positive for seminal material. Unfortunately the lab didn't bother doing the confirmatory tests or even lking at it under a microscope (apparently that's not part of there work flow 😔). The presumptive tests do have an approx 10% false positive rate, however the chance of both tests being false positive when you add in the unidentified male DNA on the genitals and underwear would be under 1% 🙈🙈. Why do you think LE refused to use a private lab to do the DNA testing that the state lab couldn't?

@Mia McHaffey please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just a mother that is very concerned that unknown male dna on the genitals of girls and seminal fluid from cervical swabs could be rationalised as coming from the 'laundry' (per the government!). What happens if a young girls claims SA, have all the above positive tests will LE just say it is from the laundry 🙈. It's a horrifying thought 😢.

@Ridge Nappier Did you not watch the video where one of the girls told the other girl he has a gun? Did you hear him say don't fall off the hill? No bc he clearly said guys down the hill while forcing them to go down the hill. Stop supporting that coward

@Lainey Marcum She found him guilty bc he is guilty DUH

@Brad Begley the audio says "this is the path that we go down". No one said "dat be a gun". Who talks like that? 🤦

@Classic Over Thinker these are lies

@Classic Over Thinker quit lying and making shit up. Disgisting.

@Mia McHaffey which part are you saying is untrue? Here is part of Stacy Bozinovski's testimony regarding the seminal material

@Christine Danger have you read the court transcripts?

@Stacey Foltz Eisner testimony from Stacy Bozinovski ...

@Mia McHaffey perhaps you should read the transcripts? Errors have been found in the transcript, do you believe this is incorrect?

@Mia McHaffey I agree with this and that he is guilty !

@Breeun McNeil-Buhrkuhl #2 🙂

@Mia McHaffey thank you. What juror # were you?

@Breeun McNeil-Buhrkuhl see above

@Brooke Walters-Schmidt Jurors never saw the sketches, Gull denied it.

@Christy Sharp they said this was not a DNA trial. state proved their case, all they had to do was prove RA was BG and they did it with the help of RA own statements. MIC DROP . and it was minus his own so called fake psychosis statements.

who do u think the sketch not a pic. but sketch looks like?this is Brad Holder during that time

@Christy Sharp even without the sketches the whole trial was reasonable doubt. WHOSE MALE DNA IS ON THE GIRLS GENITALS AND SEMINAL FLUID IS INSIDE BITH GIRLS!

@Nana Foster 100% about the pile of phones. People don't mention that often. They had every phone they've ever owned since the 90s, but not that one 😢

If you were really on this jury, didn't you think it was suspicious at all that Judge Gull did NOT allow his defense team to show any evidence? Something very fishy and wrong happened in this Delphi, Indiana case and MILLIONS of us are questioning it.

@Claire Ceci They were paid off before they even set foot in that court room, and they will be exposed "shortly" and be in "jail"

@Claire Ceci you should learn what nexus means

@Nana Foster Whatever.

Medication time!!!

@Turk Payton why did it sway you? Odinists don't sacrifice caucasian female children. Not even the defense's expert could say what runes the sticks were without misinterpreting. It wasn't "Hail Odin"; it was a Hail Mary SODDI defense. All the 'Odinist' suspects blamed by defense had solid alibis. There was no nexus linking anyone but RA to the crime.

@Nana Foster then why were the bodies placed in a ritualistic pattern with runes? Also, why would you think being Caucasian would make any difference in a ritualistic sacrifice that's a little racist don't you think? Pagans sacrificed other pagans and non-pagans it didn't matter the color that has nothing to do with it. What about the other evidence the bullet that was never fired that is one of the most common rounds in the United States. What about the woman's testimony and her description of a young curly haired man these are all things the jerry needs to hear he may he may not have done it he didn't do it by itself is my opinion if he did it , but you have to look into that they wouldn't have been placed in a ritualistic manner if it wasn't some sort of sacrifice sorry you're not an expert, and the states experts will testify to whatever the state wants them to testify to

@JohnJohn Faulk the witnesses on the trail cleared the trail from noon to 2:15 and only saw RA. They saw him arrive at 1:30 and the digital metadata proves it. Then 20 minutes later Betsy saw him (from 100 feet away!) on the bridge platform just minutes before the girls got to the bridge. 1000% no way it was anyone other than RA. It waa blaringly obvious RA lied about his altered time of noon to 1:30 during his interview/interrogation; to conveniently remove himself from the crime scene. But the metadata don't lie

@Nana Foster Mysteriously Rick's 2017 phone became missing because the GPS data would've cleared him at home asleep on couch , but I'm sure the physical phone is not mandatory to go back to his carrier and extract his phone and clear this man he is innocent , and I got a feeling the 2 women judges agree that Rick did not get a fair trial "and my prediction is they vote 2 - 1 and grant new Trial .

@JohnJohn Faulk herein lies your problem- you ignore the d@mning evidence in favor of unsubstantiated stories that can't make sense if you acknowledge the evidence. Metadata already proved he wasn't home sleeping on his couch. Metadata also proved he was never online looking at his stock ticker (another lie he told)

@Jessica Brehon looks like different color jackets to me

@Jessica Brehon The color of the jacket is a different shade. And I'm not sure if BG is wearing a hat. But he jeans, LE should have arrested any man from Delphi who owned jeans, right?

@Jessica Brehon How would the state know the exact time of death? This can't be accurate.

@Shawn Palmi they don't actually. This is the TOD that they presented in the trial that Mia believes is true. She says the van confession convinced her (while also saying she didn't consider any confessions in her verdict) and asked for anyone with contradictory info to provide it. She's twice ignored my question about Weber not coming home for 15-30 mins after states TOD though.

@Jessica Brehon Are you sure? How can they present an exact time of death? Whomever said that is either psychic, was there that day, or is an idiot. Or you're wrong and the state didn't present an exact time of death.

@Mia McHaffey Do you think this 10/10 sketch of a young tall beautiful man looks like Richard Allen?

@Mia McHaffey Ma'am, that right there is what is called "reasonable doubt."

The FBI says that Ron Logan's phone shows he was at the crime scene at 7:36pm and 10:16pm

David McCain was taking photographs at the bridge for 1/2 an hour between 2-3pm
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mnooHg_SFHBgRywLFbm4-u_J4F_u1fn/view

Sigh. He wasn't tortured. His lawyers put on a vigorous defense, introduced lots of evidence. Just not what was inadmissible.

@Marcia Mahony if it wasn't horrific, then why was the sound removed?

@Lorinda Cearing THIS!! Westville is one of the most ran down & dangerous prisons in Indiana!

@Marcia Mahony Have you ever been inside a prison? I have as staff and visitor. There is a lot more than torture that goes on in a prison!

@Melissa Southern Exactly why it was chosen imo.

@Marcia Mahony so you were there?

@King Ron Nope. Just someone who paid attention to the facts of this case.

@Lorinda Cearing
That's not what happened at all.

@Melissa Southern you might be explaining to an artificial entity. This page is riddled with Ai hecklers.

@Melissa Southern of all the evidence presented- the bullet, his lies, his confessions, the video, the sightings- what makes it someone else's crime (that there's no evidence of) than it NOT be his?

@Kathy Hicks plenty of people have admitted to this crime! But were let go! RON LOGAN & his bogus Alibi which he's dead now can't be charged but his property is where the girls were found!

Also BRAD HOLDER & his alibi of being at work but why did he run off the stand when being questioned?? To come back the next day to go back on stand?

Also why were the 2 sketches presented in court? When EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WAS LOOKING FOR THESE 2 MEN!!! 😲

Why wasn't the unspent bullet found the day the girls bodies were found? Nothing has ever been said about it until they search RA's home! Oh then BAM.... There's a bullet!!

Also PLEASE TELL ME SINCE WHEN DO MURDERERS CALL & STATE THEY WERE AT THE SCENE???

With just the “evidence” that's was presented in court... STILL HAS ALOT OF DOUBT!! No way the jury didn't get paid off to find this guy GUILTY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT!! This is Wild!

It was ELECTION YEAR IN CARROLL COUNTY! The sheriff needed a conviction the case had been open for 5 years & the prosecution barely has any evidence besides RA SAID HE WAS ON THE TRAIL THAT DAY!

Video of a man who is taller then RA WALKS WITH A LIMP (RON LOGAN) The county messed this whole case up since DAY 1!

RA did not get a fair trial! GIVE HIM ONE AND WATCH HIM WALK FREE!!

Justice for Abby & Libby!!

FREE RICHARD ALLEN

@King Ron ohhh... makes sense but I never check profiles 😂 guess I should start 🙃

@Melissa Southern it's estimated over 80% on social media are bots now. I still catch myself falling for it sometimes but then my pattern recognition psyche kicks in. 😁

@Melissa Southern No documentation or chain of command in real time on that bullet! Science has already disproved the theory of matching an unspent round to a specific gun! I believe that bullet was planted after the unconstitutional search of his home! Bring Justice back to the legal system in Carroll County! ⚖

@Susan Burrows AGREED!! 💯

I do have a question...how many cases in our history have actually had corrupt judges? Cause it just doesn't make sense to me that Judge Gull would NOT let the defense team present their evidence. And also why did she try to take Richard Allen's attorney's off the case? These are important questions that really should be answered via an appeal as well, unless “someone” is trying to hide something or “cover up” something.

@Lorinda Cearing ORRR... the UNSPENT BULLET WAS PLANTED THERE AFTER THEY SEARCHED RA's home.... N that was just part of the corruption of placing something there when it wasn't there in the beginning!! All to get a conviction!!

It's been a shit show of prosecution... which is about right for CARROLL COUNTY!!
They had 5 YEARS TO BUILD A CASE & pretty much have nothing & blocked all actual evidence from being submitted in court!!

JUSTICE FOR LIBBY & ABBY!!

@Lorinda Cearing the bullet found at the scene had been cycled, meaning, it was loaded into the chamber and ejected without being fired. This happens when you "rack the gun", and is typically done when you want to ensure there is no round in the chamber when storing, or when a round becomes jammed. But in this case, it is speculated that he "racked" the gun to instill fear in the victims into following his orders.

@Jason Haynes except the state says he racked the gun at the end of the bridge during the 'down the hill' 43sec video, yet claim the racked cartridge was found in-between the girls? Hence why it is called the 'magic bullet'.

@Classic Over Thinker the state did not argue he racked the gun on the bridge. Richard allen made a statement about "doing something with the gun" at the end of the bridge but its unclear if he meant at the crime scene or on the bridge. Its also possible he racked the gun more than once, or that the first time there was no bullet in the chamber. Regardless, the bullet was found between the two victims. It was documented the day they processed the crime scene. Nice try though.

@Jason Haynes it was also initially reported to be found on the Fri! Either way it did not match Ricks gun when just racking it. whereas Ron Logan and Brad Webers guns could NOT be excluded. The state wasn't happy with this so they fired ONLY Ricks gun 5 or 6 times and said 1 cartridge had sufficient agreement 🤔. Why do you think Gull wouldn't let the defence expert Tobin testify, because Tobin has crushed her 'I've never been wrong' testimony before 🤦. you don't have to believe me it's all in the transcripts but personally I never trust someone that says they have never been wrong, like Obergs lie! Maybe that's why she's moved on to insurance now?

Concerning this mysterious bullet. An unspent 'supposedly' cycled bullet laying there. Why? The girls were killed with something sharp. Why wouldn't Gull allow a FBI expert testify about the bullet for the defense.

@Terry Young what was it

@Jessica Dawn I know that

@Lorinda Cearing The evidence at trial was that it matched because the rounds had been in HIS gun. Not any similar gun. HIS gun.

@Marcia Mahony And the Gull wouldn't allow a FBI expert testify for the defense concerning the bullet.

@Marcia Mahony you can't compare an unspent round with a fired round. That is how the forensic person "tried to make them match" she tried every way she could but finally fired it and tried to make it look like a match. Two different things.Junk science. Doesn't work that way!

@Marcia Mahony Thats incorrect. 1 - In tool mark analysis you cant state something is a match, its - sufficient agreement. 2 - Ron Logan and Brad Webbers firearms could not be excluded! Ricks gun was EXCLUDED when the cartridge was just cycled, so Oberg decided to fire ONLY Ricks firearm 5-6 times and 1 of those cartridges Oberg claimed sufficient agreement, even though RL & BW's firearms could not be excluded🤔. Another Judge excluded Tobin from a trial, just like Gull, and the verdict was overturned on appeal just by excluding Tobin!

@Lorinda Cearing Nope. The rounds found at the scene matched the rounds from his gun at home.

@Marcia Mahony It matched thousands of guns!!!

@Danny Thomas Nope. The evidence at trial was that it matched HIS gun. In order to introduce expert evidence, it has to meet the Daubert standard, and defense's evidence did not.

@Marcia Mahony research the trial

@Marcia Mahony it was only 1 round

@Marcia Mahony how doe it match if its unspent

@Marcia Mahony Funny, because Melissa Oberg's actual findings were "inconclusive" yet she testified at trial they were a match.

You're claiming her false testimony as fact, when it's actually a violation of the Federal Rules of Evidence (Best/Original) for her to have claimed that on the stand, constituting yet another in a long list of Napue violations Gull overlooked.

It is criminal Prosecutorial Misconduct to allow false testimony into trial.

The deeper you dig into each piece of evidence, the more State error you will find.

Also, she had to fire the round to produce markings even close to that on the unfired bullet.

And, in Richard Allen's confession, he stated he racked his gun at the top of the hill, which would not explain how it ended up where the girls were found, between them, lodged in the dirt.

@Lorinda Cearing And Judge Gull refused to order the preservation of evidence. It's going to be hard to retry him if half of it's gone come that second trial.

@Marcia Mahony which match the one police man in question. The judge in the appeals hearing said its a common size

@Jo Schultz exactly

@Marcia Mahony false. They could not get the unspent round at the scene to match an unspent bullet from his gun. So after shooting this that and the other multiple times there were similar characteristics.

@Marcia Mahony no ma'am. There are LOTS of YouTubers that have been very involved with this case and the people of delphi. Fran Gull fought for the right to have cameras in the courtroom for transparency. But for this case she banned them...suspish. Due to that bs the channel CriminalTy True Crime made several episodes of reading the court transcripts. If you want to know exactly what was said, including homie googling a question and coming back to the stand and testifying to what an iPhone chat group said regarding the phone having a record of someone putting headphones or something into the jack and taking it out HOURS after the girls were murdered.

@Jo Schultz Well if you fire through their gun it will match, they put the marks on the bullet which is corruption in my eyes.

@Marcia Mahony What the forensic examiner testified to is not what her report scientifically concluded. Richard Allen's firearm did not provide sufficient markings to allow for comparison to the bullet recovered at the crime scene. People are easily duped. Some just enjoy the tales of a lying tongue.

Extractor/Ejector Marks: The metal hooks that pull the casing out of the chamber and throw it from the gun leave specific scrapes and stamps on the side and rim.

@Marcia Mahony They were just bullets that millions of people buy. Of course it matched. Why would someone buy bullets that would not work in their gun ? 😀

@Leslie Kingston I would love to see more proof of that, so lets get the man a fair trial so we can all see the proof instead of blocking camera's, blocking the media, trying to fire peoples lawyers, denying entry of anything the defense had to say or show the court. It was a one sided trial. Unconstitutional plus the torture the man went through while he was suppose to be kept safe.

As I recall the police went to the media asking for help. Snap Chat killer, is the original name of Bridge Guy

@Lorinda Cearing the complete trial was corrupt!

@Lorinda Cearing after that... if he's found guilty again would you say there is still corruption?

@Lorinda Cearing no gun was used

@Lorinda Cearing you can't do ballistics on a casing , it was a un fired round

@Mary Nell Riley lmao.. the pic. The bullet was photographed bagged and tagged and dated and there's a picture of it to the day that they found it which was on 14 February.

@Lorinda Cearing the bullet in the keepsake box was a 'trophy' bullet pulled from his magazine that he didn't rack-eject onto the ground; not the same bullet found at the scene. A memento to remember his murderous experience

@Nana Foster That bullet was NOT a trophy. You have no evidence of that. My husband had the same kind of box. With all sorts of small items in it. So he would not loose them. Watch, ring, pocket knife, change, business cards, etc... He put all kinds of stuff in there 😕 Are you a psychic ?

@Lorinda Cearing if you don't believe me, ask Mia- an actual juror- what a reasonable person would assume/infer after sitting in court everyday hearing and seeing the totality of all the evidence

@Nana Foster That is another one of the main issues 😕 the jurors NOT seeing evidence. No transparency . Duh 😕 that will be brought up in the Supreme Court if he is granted a new trial.

@Lorinda Cearing WHAT EVIDENCE didn't the jury see? What magical evidence are you referring to?

@Lorinda Cearing two different bullets

@Lorinda Cearing You are assuming there was ballistic evidence that tied the bullet at the scene with ammo the defendant had, which there was not. An unspent cartridge that was chambered in the firearm has an ejection mark which is quite a bit different than the lands and grooves of a fired bullet. Using a cartridge mark is not sufficient to to identify a specific firearm. The bullet found at the scene can be found in hundreds of not thousands of Hoosiers homes and was the weakest piece of evidence the state had. An unfired bullet was not the smoking gun some people are imagining it to be.

@Lorinda Cearing NO damn bullet! cartridge !

@Terry Young they weren't shot were they???

@Mary Nell Riley no

@Terry Young Racking twice does not harm the gun. It's won't cause the weapon to fire or cause a jam.

Example. You rack the gun , a round is chambered.
You rack it a second time, the chambered round is ejected and a new round goes into the chamber.
You can empty a whole magazine just by racking the slide over and over and ejecting 1 bullet at a time.

This happens because the ejector catches the lip of the round as soon as its seated in the chamber. When you pull the slide back to rack again, the ejector ejects the round from the chamber clearing the chamber for the next round.

@Mary Nell Riley he racked the gun the first time when he ordered the girls "down the hill" after they went down the hill he ordered them to undress and he saw a white van drive pass. That startled Richard Allen and he ordered the girls across the creek. Once they were on Ron Logan's property that is where he attacked and brutally murdered them with a box cutter. He rack his gun a second time causing the bullet to eject from the firearm.

Racking twice does not harm the gun. It's won't cause the weapon to fire or cause a jam.

Example. You rack the gun , a round is chambered. You rack it a second time, the chambered round is ejected and a new round goes into the chamber. You can empty a whole magazine just by racking the slide over and over and ejecting 1 bullet at a time.

This happens because the ejector catches the lip of the round as soon as its seated in the chamber. When you pull the slide back to rack again, the ejector ejects the round from the chamber clearing the chamber for the next round.

@Leslie Kingston and NO ballistics! duh?

If they found evidence in his house why shouldn't it be used if he's not guilty then they shouldn't have found any evidence in his house right?

@Melissa Wilson ever heard of planted evidence

@Melissa Wilson they found nothing in his home

@Melissa Wilson They didn't find any evidence at his house.

@Rhonda Blair Quintero so the bullet theory?

@Brittany Shelby nobody was shot and nobody saw a gun and nobody saw Rick Allen? I'm not saying guilty or innocent but this is crazy.

@Billy Scales facts there's literally no evidence that points to his guilt

@Brittany Shelby the markings didn't match after being racked or when it was fired.

@Shiloh August they don't do ballistics on shell casings !

oh ok. Thank you for explaining why!

@Mike Sims actually they do

@Mike Sims they did at least 6 test on his gun.

@Tim Ringle which is inadmissible

@Tim Ringle oh plz people confess to murder all the time and yes even innocent people

@Melissa Wilson nothing in his home or car points to his guilt. I guess not everyone paid attention to this case.

@Shiloh August unfortunately some people just follow MSM 😢

@Shiloh August he only had years to cover his tracks

@Tim Ringle yet he kept his job even stayed in Delphi.

@Melissa Wilson what evidence was found in his house? NONE.

@Melissa Wilson ever heard of the constitution?

@Melissa Wilson evidence could've easily been planted in case you didn't realize there were. These were Delphi cops that started this investigation and I wouldn't trust much of Indiana's please force it all mean all we have to do is look in our backyard and see how crooked it is.

@Joanne Healey RIP Det. Greg Ferency 🕊️

@Joanne Healey if you knew what happens out in those woods at night, you would think differently, quickly

@Rick Gruss the getters will get you?

@Rick Gruss What happens out there?

@Rick Gruss yes, what happens out there?

@Joanne Healey exactly if that doesn't work maybe they'll try aliens or the boogeyman

@Fransik Regina Or perhaps they can actually go out and find the real killer(s).

@Rhonda Blair Quintero please share why you think the wrong man was arrested and convicted. You must have information that the jury was given.

@Rhonda Blair Quintero THIS!! Isn't Justice if they get the wrong man...

@Joanne Healey I really doubt that'll happen. There was no basis to pursue that or it would've happened

@Marian Jean Exactly, that's why I left a 😜

@Joanne Healey I honestly didnt see that lol

@Marian Jean not if it wasn't allowed

@Marian Jean The reason why it wasn't pursued is because Judge Gull refused to allow it.

@Marian Jean Exactly.

@Terry Young if there's no basis to allow it, there's no basis to allow it. That's WHY it wasn't presented!

@Calypso Scentflower that sounds like a lot of conspiracy. Investigators stated that all suspects were looked at, and eliminated except for Richard Allen.

@Rhonda Blair Quintero she didn't allow it, because there was no basis to allow it! 🤷

@Kenny Catron There WAS a basis and Gull suppressed! Don't YOU want justice for those girls either. Seems like it. I want the whole story to get that.

@Kenny Catron No, she didn't allow it, like so many other things, because she was biased agaibst RA from day 1. She should be removed from the bench.

@Kenny Catron that's actually not how that works. There's ample evidence to allow it, but the judge and DA wouldn't allow it because she knew they wouldn't find him guilty if they had. They didn't allow anything that wouldn't secure a conviction. Just like the phones that the FBI pinged in the area of the crime scene, that wasn't allowed either.

@Joanne Healey 2nd biggest 'religion' in Indiana 🤦. That's why prisons have to have all the Asatru holidays

@Joanne Healey two young girls were brutally murdered. This is real life not a movie for your entertainment. Shame on you.

@Ronda Hurley truest words I've ever heard about this trial.

@Ronda Hurley he got a fair trial.

@Ronda Hurley bingo!

@Ronda Hurley so, you have no official position of value. Got it. You could have done it. Anyone could have done anything, according to your comment. Hmm. Seems like anything else 8n this world, huh.

@Ronda Hurley there were things that were not talked about at the trial. Usually I don't have trouble with what the truth is but this case I do. I feel bad that I feel this way because of the poor girls and the family but things are fishy

@Kimberly D Brown yes I was told the same thing

@Libby Baca I'm not sure if they will try and bring that detail in at retrial?

@Libby Baca yes and when they were told to take them off (when defence noticed and took a pic) one of the guards got the symbol tattooed on his cheek! Attorney William Lebrato also confirms this, I can't link it here but his interview was with Barbara McDonald

@Classic Over Thinker thank you I will see if I can find it

@Kimberly D Brown yes that was disclosed before .

@Kimberly D Brown yes at Westville Prison

@Kimberly D Brown that is BS

@Hollie Gentry It's in court documents 🤦. He admitted to wearing the patches

@Kimberly D Brown additionally this was pre-trial! Everyone else housed in that building had been convicted of a crime. It is beyond humane what they did

@Shannon Van Zee it was so he could be safe & get the appropriate care. Please try and keep up.

@Brian Dusenbery girl please, he ate his own shit and stabbed his junk with a spork, involuntarily injected with drugs, kept away from his attorneys and family. Much of which was done BEFORE HE WAS CHARGED. Be soooo for real right now Mrs. Douchebery. Take a seat, there is not room for you here Brian.

@Shannon Van Zee you can't even write a post correctly. Please understand the difference between charged & convicted. Any explanation will be lost on you.

@Brian Dusenbery definitely NOT safe

@Kimberly D Brown prison and extremely
It was not a fair trial..
The bullet was not fired...so there's nothing to go on....Do you know how many people own that same gun?
And that IS NOT Ricky!

@Anita Hagerty The detailed "confession" we only heard from Wala is very similar to her favorite YouTubers theory of the crime that he held for years. And he knew about the van before Wala's testimony.

@Eileen TenEyck Dozens of people had walked the bridge and surrounding area that day.
Prosecutors said they found a 'similar' blue Carrhardt jacket at his house that had no DNA or blood from the victims on it.
Then later they admitted they could not clearly make out the logo of the jacket worn by the bridge guy in the video to determibe if it was a Carrhardt jacket or not.

@Eileen TenEyck in reports no but there are rumors in the towns surrounding Delphi. I live prob 15-20 min from there and I've heard multiple things from multiple people who claimed to know the family or be from there.

@Eileen TenEyck actually he wasn't the only one there according to the police. The land owner was there also and from what they are saying both of them look alike. They never found any DNA evidence to link him to the crime and with the amount of blood there was he couldn't have possibly gotten rid of all it only a expert in the field could have

@Jim Clark and if I'm correct didn't the landowner's girlfriend or wife recognize his voice as bridge guy?

@Libby Baca which one did she say? I haven't heard that one before but there's a lot I haven't heard

@Jim Clark Ron Logan was not at the trail that day. Richard Allen put himself there, at that time, in that exact outfit.

@Libby Baca She said it sounded like him. But when you listen to BG and the videos his wife had on her Facebook page of him talking, it's a dead ringer.

@Jim Clark i think the killer is already dead !

@Carli Della Foresta not according to the law enforcement go look it up

@Gloria Williams have no idea. And I don't know if he's guilty or not

@Jim Clark Land owner, Ron Logan, had an alibi. Give it up.

@Carli Della Foresta Read the affidavit for the search warrant for Ron Logans home. It will prove you wrong when you said he wasnt there

@Carli Della Foresta He absolutely did not have an alibi. Have you not read anything about this case? Before the girls were even found, Ron Logan asked his cousin to lie for him and provide an alibi for the 2:30 pm time period on Feb 13th. This was well before anyone knew what time they disappeared. The cousin told the police about the false alibi. Also, Ron Logans phone is in the geofence information. He was near the crime scene.

@Eileen TenEyck He was in the area and on the bridge that day. His car was captured on camera at the time the girls were there. There was no evidence of sexual assault. In one of his confessions, he said he panicked when he saw a van and killed them before he had assaulted them.

@Monica Andry "a car that looks like his car" according to the prosecutors. There is seminal fluid (without sperm) from the swabs of the girls genital areas. The State never had it tested to determine if they could get DNA from the samples. The van was debunked at the trial. Brad Weber testified that he arrived home at 2:30 which was supposedly the van that spooked R Allen and he forced the girls across the creek and their phone stopped moving at 2:32. However, there is now irrefutable evidence that Weber didnt enter the private drive until 2:44 and arrived home at 2:50.

@Eileen TenEyck had he not "self reported" he'd never got on the radar.
I've always had mixed feelings about guilty vs not guilty because evidence is all over the place but him self reporting was silliest thing he could have done. Can you imagine the amount of people present that day who didn't self report? Regardless innocent or not he really did not get a fair trial which I blame on the hate the judge had on his attorneys so he should get a new trial but outcome may be the same.

@John Brazzell Honesty isn't always the best policy !

@Eileen TenEyck If you were forced to strip at gunpoint, would you not consider that SA in itself? He got spooked by the van and didn't finish what he planned. He said that, and it adds up.

@Mary Gravely this comment wins. He described all by himself how he planned to SA the girls but white can drive by and he spooked. White van guy confirmed that exact time he drove by. THAT was NOT public knowledge until after RA made that statement. Ppl are wild out here defending his guilty ass

@Mary Gravely Ah, but it doesn't. Brad Weber testified that he arrived home around 2:30 (in his van which supposedly spooked Allen and he forced the girls across the creek and killed them). The girls' phone stopped moving at 2:32. However, there is now irrefutable proof that Weber entered the long, private drive at 2:44 and arrived home at 2:50. So, it no longer coincides with the State's timeline and theory.

@Eileen TenEyck It didn't fit his description!

@Eileen TenEyck He lived in the area!

@Eileen TenEyck What description? None was presented at trial by State.

@Eileen TenEyck Yep.
He.still.had.the.cost.
Never even got rid of the coat

@Eileen TenEyck I'm sure Abby and Libby didn't take their clothes off without being ordered to. They were told to by someone. That's a form of sexual abuse

@Eileen TenEyck according to Anna Williams there was over 50 people on the trails that day, I cant remember all the mens names but some are Ron Logan, Dave McCain, Dan McCain, Evan, a man with a little dog, there were girls over the other side of the bridge about 3. Rick said he was at the trail BETWEEN 1-3 (as he said he probably left around 1.30pm) NOT that he was there from 1pm to 3pm. Betsy Blairs description of Bridge Guys was young, 20-30yo, brown poofy hair, beautiful (definitely not how I would describe Rick), the group of 4 girls, Railly, Bree etc (Rick saw a group of 3 girls) saw a younger man, he had a mask on so they could really only see his eyes, which were described as not blue. Ricks eyes are definitely blue. Railly is 5'7 the girls said the man they saw was approximately 5'10? Rick is 5'4-5 (very short for a man). ive attached a pic of 'Bridge Guy', the top pic is what Rick actually said he wore in the interview, middle is the blue jacket from Ricks house that Kathy bought in 2019 🤦 The bottom pic is Ron Logan, who actually confessed in 2017 🤯. As for the SA, there is male DNA on both girls genitals, breasts and the one pair of underwear recovered - Ricks DNA was excluded!!!! There was also seminal fluid from BOTH girls cervical swabs 😱. LE refused to test the DNA properly 😠 . The ME said something along the lines of no visible sign of SA 🤦 . The ISP Lab technician consulted with Bode Technology and another private lab to do the testing required (The ISP lab didnt have the capability & they had kicked the FBI off!!) but LE refused to test the DNA 👿. Sorry for the giant essay, I could go on and on about the dna, its infuriating and an insult to Abby and Libby 😠

@Jennifer Halsmer 🎯🎯

@Jennifer Halsmer Why do any criminals say they don't do it? They don't want to go to jail.

@Jennifer Halsmer
He also "confessed" to killing his grandkids....he had none

@Jennifer Halsmer right? I'd never admit to a crime so horrible as this if I was innocent ..no matter who or what interrogated me id never take blame for someone else's cruel activities such as this and look at life in prison...hes either guilty as hell or stupid as $$$$...

@Sandi Smith Or a third choice. He was tortured. Look up what the cops did in a true crime case about Stephanie Crowe. They forced a 14 year old kid to confess for a crime he did not commit. It was actually an intruder who killed his 12 year old sister, not him.

@Jennifer Halsmer let me tell you something, if you're arrested them cops will manipulate you or hold you on Ransom until you admit to what they wanna here. Guilty or not, If you don't admit you're only like 25% of the population that wouldn't tell the police what they wanted to hear just to try inn go home. Can't imagine sitting in a solitary confinement 4x7 cell, the only people you talk to on a daily are telling you you did something to them two girls and if you admit it we'll let you call home, or we'll let you have this ? or do that, in his mental State of Mind ? Who telling what he would or wouldn't have admitted to . I mean come on guys think about it, he admitted to killing his daughter raping his daughter beating his wife none of them things happened ? And all you people saying " I would never admit to something i didn't do". Yeah ok, you definitely don't know that until you're in that type of situation. The justice system has let thousands of people across America go home a year that was incarcerated for one year all the way up to 50+ years for admitting to something they did not do. They eventually get exonerated. Not all but some, just emag

@Marshall Peaslee EXACTLY!!! And this place they held him that is terrible I have a loved one there and I wouldn't want my worst enemy there

@Marshall Peaslee some of you are just total clowns. RA never said anything close to what you just said. His attorneys lied about a few items and it was later proven not true about his conditions.

@Brian Dusenbery so you were there holding his hand you're the clown I never said that's exactly what he said goofball

@Brian Dusenbery that's just what the news reported while he was incarcerated. There's multiple reports of his psychiatrist coercing him and offering gifts for admitting his guilt he had multiple reports of inmates threatening his life if he didn't admit to what he did. Even the guards so who's the clown fool everybody in this group has got their own opinion do you hear anybody else calling people clowns or names until you started you're lucky you're not in person having this debate because if you called me a clown to my face you'd be the one with the red nose

@Brian Dusenbery and let me guess you don't even live in the state of Indiana anywhere near where this happened and and you don't even have an ounce of what actually is being said and going on around here but what you read on Facebook or the news correct

@Jennifer Halsmer they are covering it up , he was framed

@Jennifer Halsmer ask Google. Or read the news.

@Jennifer Halsmer good question!

@Jennifer Halsmer easy. The police coerced his admission by sleep deprivation as well as food and water being denied to him. Not to mention the lying cops and prosecution team. Cant forget that small town cops lack resources and is usually incompetent to handle high profile cases like this. Its common

@Larry McCullough awwww the Facebook detectives are speaking out🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Jennifer Halsmer happens a lot when they interrogate for so many hours with no rest. He said he shot them! Big problem! They were not shot!
I think he is innocent

@Jennifer Halsmer why did Ron Logan say he did it? why did Elvis Fields say he did it? why did Kegan Kline confess? none of those were in solitary being involuntarily injected with Haldol 🤦. why did over 50 people confess to the Yoghurt Shop Murders?

@Diana Banas It's been confirmed that she was juror #2.

@April Vasquez So he is this Bananas lady who was there but doesn't know what was going on?

@Shawn Palmi she is the juror that spoke to Murder Sheet. The interview is; interesting.

@Shawn Palmi The juror is in these comments speaking. First name Mia.

So you were there, but not paying attention to what was going on? What were you even doing there then?

@Anne Marie W he's deranged

@Anne Marie W ya to r*pe those little girls ...the clear motive a digusting predator would be after that was walking up on children

@Krystal Carmack Thats Wala's story. No one has ever heard Rick Allen say that.

@Anne Marie W yes he's a pervert

@Dave Turbin and do you have anything at all to back your claim up?

@Brian Devlin Why else would he lead two young women DOWN THE HILL to a secluded spot make them strip do whatever and then kill them.

@Dave Turbin with no prior record, no witness, no statement. Just a confession under duress.

@Dave Turbin nope? Didn't think so you fucking weirdo

@Brian Devlin your need to get your head out of your ass ad look at the facts and quit believing what you read on the fucking internet

@Dave Turbin so what are the facts you fucking tool? Please tell me or will are you too busy making fake ass Ai profile pictures you fucking lame?

@Dave Turbin so I am assuming you have facts that he is a pervert, if so please share. If not, get fucked you bitch.

@Brian Devlin no sense arguing with a moron

@Dave Turbin whats there to argue about ya bitch, just show me these FACTS you claim to have. If not then shut the fuck up and go back to fantasy land with your Ai, dipshit 😁😁

@Brian Devlin You just stay in your moms basement eating cheetos being the great talking tuff computer warrior you are

@Dave Turbin ooooh sick burn 🔥 lol

I actually live in paradise with my beautiful lady, something you appear to be lacking lol. Albeit I did just eat a bag of cheetos earlier today 😁😁

I hope all you maga dipshits fucking die and soon, your time is coming 🤯

@Brian Devlin Awww I see you got smart and deleted all that childish BS you were posting good job

@Dave Turbin yeah that's funny because all my comments seem to still appear but yours are gone. I promise I've no reason to delete anything. Weirdo 🤯

@Anne Marie W Nut job phsyo